I think that's your spin. The facts are that the Trump campaign pressured the CDC about school reopenings. Outside pressure is evil. The fact that some schools are in areas that are ready to safely reopen and some are not is not empirically political.
OP: I agree with that yet in areas that can safely open (NYC metro) we're seeing more conservative schools open fully and more liberal ones (at least faculty) not.
Oct 5, 2020 - This article is a collaboration between The New Yorker and ProPublica. Shemar, a twelve-year-old from East Baltimore, is good at math, and ...
Anonymous
Sep 30, 2020
This article in the progressive New Yorker magazine is very clear that the teachers did not want to do anything that the White House was advocating, regardless of the effect on students.
It is crazy that opening schools has been associated as a "conservative" thing. What happened to prioritizing kids and education? How can you get more progressive than that?
When the conservatives pushing schools to open are also the people who downplay the seriousness of the virus, it's easy to see how "open schools" became associated with anti masking, covid-denying, etc. Especially when people are angry at teachers who seem to be legitimately scared after what they witnessed last spring. If any of them die, the conservatives will say, "Well did they have pre-existing conditions/comorbidities?"
I personally don't think teachers suddenly just don't care about teaching kids for absolutely no reason at all or because they're selfish jerks. And when the White House goes against what the CDC says, yeah, you start to say, "the only person looking after me is me." I mean, that's why most people say they're not going to take the vaccine if Trump says it's ok, lol. Would any of you? Always consider the source.
Anonymous
Sep 30, 2020
It's not easy for me to see how "open schools" became associated with anti-masking and cover-denying...it is easy to see how teachers enjoyed working from home for the Spring and wanted another run at it in the Fall. Children in public schools = collateral damage. Good luck with that!
@Anonymous Let me explain OR's point to you like you're five: the people who advocate for "Open schools regardless of the numbers and safety measures!" are often the same people who denigrate masks and deny the seriousness of Covid. The most obvious example being the loudmouth in the White House. That is how the two positions became associated.
In “liberal” Europe, countries got infection rates down before they reopened schools. Eventually, infection rates went up again after reopening (which was expected). In the US, conservative government(s) prevented all measures to curb infections and want to reopen anyway.
Anonymous
Sep 30, 2020 · Edited: Sep 30, 2020
Were you in hibernation during the near-total national lockdown from mid-March through April; in case you missed it, it was styled as a measure to "flatten the curve" as we ALL knew that the virus could not be completely eliminated but that hospitals and other medical facilities including nursing homes needed to prepare to deal with an onslaught of COVID patients. Most of whom happened to be in oh-so-democratic New York and California. Ps Most of Europe is no longer so "liberal" these days!
@Anonymous I see the right wing trolls are back, with their horrible English and bad grammar.
Anonymous
Sep 30, 2020
@Anonymous Ad hominem attacks - right from the Joe Biden playbook - I'm surprised you didn't call me a clown - not surprised you're using your attack to tell me to 'shut up'!
Who is "they"?
msnbc, just watched it
Also UFT
I think that's your spin. The facts are that the Trump campaign pressured the CDC about school reopenings. Outside pressure is evil. The fact that some schools are in areas that are ready to safely reopen and some are not is not empirically political.
OP: I agree with that yet in areas that can safely open (NYC metro) we're seeing more conservative schools open fully and more liberal ones (at least faculty) not.
Ah, i see. Sorry, that’s frustrating.
Wow, that's a sweeping statement, "Outside pressure is evil."
Yeah, I can see why you wanted more input from the federal government and now blame the White House for the pandemic.
The Students Left Behind by Remote Learning | The New Yorker www.newyorker.com › magazine › 2020/10/0
Oct 5, 2020 - This article is a collaboration between The New Yorker and ProPublica. Shemar, a twelve-year-old from East Baltimore, is good at math, and ...
This article in the progressive New Yorker magazine is very clear that the teachers did not want to do anything that the White House was advocating, regardless of the effect on students.
It is crazy that opening schools has been associated as a "conservative" thing. What happened to prioritizing kids and education? How can you get more progressive than that?
When the conservatives pushing schools to open are also the people who downplay the seriousness of the virus, it's easy to see how "open schools" became associated with anti masking, covid-denying, etc. Especially when people are angry at teachers who seem to be legitimately scared after what they witnessed last spring. If any of them die, the conservatives will say, "Well did they have pre-existing conditions/comorbidities?"
I personally don't think teachers suddenly just don't care about teaching kids for absolutely no reason at all or because they're selfish jerks. And when the White House goes against what the CDC says, yeah, you start to say, "the only person looking after me is me." I mean, that's why most people say they're not going to take the vaccine if Trump says it's ok, lol. Would any of you? Always consider the source.
It's not easy for me to see how "open schools" became associated with anti-masking and cover-denying...it is easy to see how teachers enjoyed working from home for the Spring and wanted another run at it in the Fall. Children in public schools = collateral damage. Good luck with that!
@Anonymous Let me explain OR's point to you like you're five: the people who advocate for "Open schools regardless of the numbers and safety measures!" are often the same people who denigrate masks and deny the seriousness of Covid. The most obvious example being the loudmouth in the White House. That is how the two positions became associated.
In “liberal” Europe, countries got infection rates down before they reopened schools. Eventually, infection rates went up again after reopening (which was expected). In the US, conservative government(s) prevented all measures to curb infections and want to reopen anyway.
Were you in hibernation during the near-total national lockdown from mid-March through April; in case you missed it, it was styled as a measure to "flatten the curve" as we ALL knew that the virus could not be completely eliminated but that hospitals and other medical facilities including nursing homes needed to prepare to deal with an onslaught of COVID patients. Most of whom happened to be in oh-so-democratic New York and California. Ps Most of Europe is no longer so "liberal" these days!
@Anonymous I see the right wing trolls are back, with their horrible English and bad grammar.
@Anonymous Ad hominem attacks - right from the Joe Biden playbook - I'm surprised you didn't call me a clown - not surprised you're using your attack to tell me to 'shut up'!