@Anonymous @ Ad hominem attacks- The "Joe Biden" playbook? Do you have a better way to deal with a narcissistic, adult-toddler? Your "boy" is truly unhinged.

OP: I agree that it made sense to open schools in Europe because they got the spread rate under control. What I'm saying is the places here that got the rate down (Northeast, etc) tend to be liberal and didn't open schools. Yet in more conservative places they have not gotten the rates down and are opening schools fully (FL, most of the south). It's all become political and not driven by science, unfortunately.

@Anonymous I found this article interesting. It makes the same point (that it's become politicized) but ties it to a broader trend of the tendency to talk about complex educational issues in simplistic terms, particularly under the "leadership" of DeVos.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brown-center-chalkboard/2020/07/29/school-reopening-plans-linked-to-politics-rather-than-public-health/

It's not easy for me to see how "open schools" became associated with anti-masking and cover-denying...it is easy to see how teachers enjoyed working from home for the Spring and wanted another run at it in the Fall. Children in public schools = collateral damage. Good luck with that!

@Anonymous Let me explain OR's point to you like you're five: the people who advocate for "Open schools regardless of the numbers and safety measures!" are often the same people who denigrate masks and deny the seriousness of Covid. The most obvious example being the loudmouth in the White House. That is how the two positions became associated.

Wow, that's a sweeping statement, "Outside pressure is evil."

Yeah, I can see why you wanted more input from the federal government and now blame the White House for the pandemic.

@Anonymous Because it's not the federal government's role to give "input" into CDC advice? The input required from government is to take practical steps to implement the expert health advice. Our federal government has done exactly the opposite: all talk and pressure on the experts to change their positions. Minimal actual material help to schools (or any other service for that matter).

I’m an MD. There is no role here for any outside influence. Follow science.

msnbc, just watched it

Also UFT