People will be unhappy, but I honestly don't know how else they could handle admissions. It would be very unfair to take elementary school grades or attendance into account this year, and there are no standardized test scores. And it's about time they opened up District 2.
I completely agree. All this sounds reasonable to me. D2 priority was completely indefensible, and changing standards for this year only (instead of sweeping change) makes the most sense.
@anonymous Good Question about Nest, Anderson being a lottery. That has not been made clear. There's only a few seats open for 6th grade but now anyone can get them, or only in the district their in?
The whole framework of screened schools is really unnecessary. Top suburban school districts do fine with just one MS and one HS. Every kid in NYC should be going to a local zoned school. But every school should have honors classes in every subject for high-performing students.
That's the problem, every HS does NOT offer honors or AP classes. If they did, more parents would be ok with most HS in the city and would want to be closer to home.
Individual districts within NYC are smaller and more homogeneous. And in any case, I don’t see why all kids can’t go to a local HS in NYC *if* each school has tracking. The demographic composition within a school won’t matter so much as long as every student is taught at her own ability level.
@Anonymous Agree. BUT, the DOE will not do tracking because they say it leads to segregation within the school itself. It all goes back to improving K-5 education and making sure kids have a strong academic foundation. All ideas being pitched take resources that the city or state will not provide.
We would need to go back to the large HS we had in the boros before Bloomberg broke them up. You still have some like Midwood, Murrow, etc. 4000 kids - honors, tons of APs, sports, etc. Honors and tracking in the school. Similar to suburban HS (but less resources).
It may work in some areas but right now its lopsided. Overcrowded schools in some parts of same boro, and under-enrolled schools in the other part of Boro. Take Brooklyn - Midwood, Murrow, Fort Hamilton are extremely overcrowded. No one is going to send their kid across Brooklyn to East New York for HS.
People will be unhappy, but I honestly don't know how else they could handle admissions. It would be very unfair to take elementary school grades or attendance into account this year, and there are no standardized test scores. And it's about time they opened up District 2.
I completely agree. All this sounds reasonable to me. D2 priority was completely indefensible, and changing standards for this year only (instead of sweeping change) makes the most sense.
This is great news for people applying to HS! They will give the SHSAT and schools will still screen!!
@anonymous, my understanding is it's up to each HS? I'm wondering how many/which will do?
Sounds like I should be happy being in a K-8 school?
Yes. So jealous! Have a 5th grader.
Yup.
No bc the lowest Performers will be in your school soon dragging down the curricula. there is nothing to be happy about
I guess I’ll see how this goes but this will probably tip us over the edge to going private
So ESMS and Lab MS will now just be pure lottery?
Yes. So what happens to Citywide schools? Will NEST and Anderson be a lottery too?
@anonymous my opinion is that they should be lottery too.
@anonymous Good Question about Nest, Anderson being a lottery. That has not been made clear. There's only a few seats open for 6th grade but now anyone can get them, or only in the district their in?
And here comes the end of testing for schools and G&T. NJ And LI are about to be inundated with smart white Kids.
The whole framework of screened schools is really unnecessary. Top suburban school districts do fine with just one MS and one HS. Every kid in NYC should be going to a local zoned school. But every school should have honors classes in every subject for high-performing students.
Top suburban school districts don't have giant housing projects. That's the real issue.
Hmm, what might be different between top suburban school districts and NYC....
That's the problem, every HS does NOT offer honors or AP classes. If they did, more parents would be ok with most HS in the city and would want to be closer to home.
Top suburban school districts don't have a heterogeneous student population of 1 M students.
Individual districts within NYC are smaller and more homogeneous. And in any case, I don’t see why all kids can’t go to a local HS in NYC *if* each school has tracking. The demographic composition within a school won’t matter so much as long as every student is taught at her own ability level.
@Anonymous Agree. BUT, the DOE will not do tracking because they say it leads to segregation within the school itself. It all goes back to improving K-5 education and making sure kids have a strong academic foundation. All ideas being pitched take resources that the city or state will not provide.
We would need to go back to the large HS we had in the boros before Bloomberg broke them up. You still have some like Midwood, Murrow, etc. 4000 kids - honors, tons of APs, sports, etc. Honors and tracking in the school. Similar to suburban HS (but less resources). It may work in some areas but right now its lopsided. Overcrowded schools in some parts of same boro, and under-enrolled schools in the other part of Boro. Take Brooklyn - Midwood, Murrow, Fort Hamilton are extremely overcrowded. No one is going to send their kid across Brooklyn to East New York for HS.