Just trying to get a sense of who has left and who will leave based on public education alone.
I have older kids in NYC public middle and high schools. We are not leaving and have been here throughout the pandemic. However, I've always thought (even before pandemic) that if I had a "do over," I would not raise my kids in NYC.
What makes you feel this way?
@Anonymous You know, it's just been stressful. Navigating the public school system in NYC is a chore from day one (at least for me) - the admissions process, the commute, etc. Maybe I'm suffering from the grass is always greener syndrome.
The NYC public school system was already a huge mess pre-COVID. I think a lot of families leave when the time comes to navigate the middle school or high school process, which is a nightmare. I agree that if I had it to do again, knowing what I know now, I would probably have left the city many years ago. But now that we have deep roots and the kids are established in their schools and friend groups, we're not going anywhere until they're in college. (And if we had moved to the suburbs, I'd be complaining bitterly about lawn care and bad bagels).
Yes, because I have ES and MS-aged kids and I rent. If they were older and set with school, I would stay. If I owned, I might stay and try to make it work with the schools. But all factors combined - expensive RE, difficult school system and now the declining revenue in the city, just make me want to move. Researching Philly suburbs now.
No, but we recently moved to private.
We tried the suburbs years ago and did not like it at all, moved back to Manhattan. I have really loved raising four kids in nyc and my daughters (now out of college and working) thank me often for that experience. Our boys are thriving. We are staying, for better or worse, nyc is home.
Where did you move?
@Anon Darien, CT
Depends on how badly things went. I find it hard to believe that there wouldn't be some good schools in NYC even if the overall trend was downward. Kids are in private K-8 but have always thought of switching over to public for HS. Is it bad that this makes me think, ok, fine, less competition for good HS spots? ;)
Problem is, the current administration seems hellbent on getting rid of specialized schools.
@AnonymousNYmom the current administration only has another yearish
but they can do so so much damage in that one year.
If I knew what I know now... I would have left the city when my kids were younger. Now they are in middle school and high school, harder to move, but I’m considering it... for my son’s high school
To hell? You mean like flames in the hallways? Beelzebub as principal? In that case, I would probably move them to another school. I still probably wouldn't move, though.
I wish you all conservative-minded fucks would leave the city, tbh. Signed, native NYer and graduate of non-fancy city public schools.
I’m also a native NYer with young kids in public school. But I’m aware of revenue shortfalls and budget cuts to an already imperfect public school system.
Just leave with the rest of the Republicans who love to hate on the city. Where did you go to school? Bc if you're a native, there surely were revenue shortfalls and budget cuts when you were a kid! Or are you 19 years old?
@anonymous Why are you making it a political thing? IF THERE’S NO MONEY, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT? Why are you taking this so personally? I WANT to stay in the city, but it’s not the best idea because of my young kids! Are you fundraising for schools right now?
You can stay and STFU. Be secure in your decision, you sound frantic
No, would just do private
We are already in private school. I suspect applications to private school will increase as the public schools do worse. Or in between options / less expensive lol BASIS or parochial schools.
I don't think they'll go up too much - but that being said we'll apply this year for middle school and I expect (and hear) that it'll be a good year to do so, as an applicant at least
Interesting piece of information I did not know, but learned from Nice White Parents podcast. Many private schools, St Ann's for example, were founded around the time NYC started tying to integrate public schools. I see alot of small independent chools popping up in Brooklyn. BASIS added a full class last year as a result of D15 diversity plan.
@Anon ? Meaning people left District 15 because of the diversity plan and went to BASIS? I never heard this. Which grade?
Based on what I am hearing from other 8th grade parents, private HS applications will most certainly increase. No grades, no test scores, and no absences for the screened public schools. There is a tremendously amount of stress about that.
Carranza was asked about tests for the upcoming year and he said it's up to Betsy De Vos or whoever replaces her after the election. Totally out of their hands.
@AnonymousQ Such BS!
If the Hs and MS admissions goes lottery this year, w/ no academic screens then there will be a great family exodus out of the city that has never been seen before.
Shh, don’t tell Desperate NYC mom/Troll Accuser. You might be called a conservative and maybe even racist.
Staying but switching to private. A stretch on our finance but had enough with the Teachers Union and won’t bet my kids‘ future on the unstoppable long term trend of doing away with any screened school. The way the public school system is heading likely will punish kids who love to learn and be challenged and the parents who care.
I am not in NYC but our public school system is also a mess. It could be cultural, the teachers in our school district are mostly not American and there are real cultural differences (I am from Europe). I want my kids to be educated in the US system, and this only works at secular private schools where I live. After years of suffering in this god-awful public school system, I hope we get some decent placement for private middle school.
I have always believed NYC public schools (with the exception of the few ultra-competitive specialized high schools) are not good schools. They simply do not have the funds or resources to offer attention and quality to kids in the way a well-funded suburban public or a private school can. I never considered sending my kids to public school in Manhattan. And we are zoned for a good public. And IRL I don't tell this to my gung-ho public school friends.
How was your school experience? Did you go to school in NYC?
I attended NY public, NY private and suburban public. I think caliber of the suburban public and the TT NYC private were pretty equal. Maybe wider breadth of courses and obviously more diversity in the private school than a lily white suburb.
Interesting perspective, thank you.