I mean... given the (now) extreme unlikelihood that none of the multiple thus far promising vaccines are successful, it would just burn itself out largely in 2 years. But why go to this place emotionally? Science and scientists have a great deal of confidence that there will be one. What if some more likely scenarios like what if trump gets re elected and we pass the point of no return where global warming is concerned.
People are already shrugging their shoulders and taking risks (where are you that there are no restaurants, for example?). People's calculus of risk changes as time goes on.
But there's no need to make decisions now about what you'll do if there's "never" a vaccine. There might not be one, but the chances are good that there will, so it's best to focus on deciding what risks we're comfortable with as a society for the next 6-12 months.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in a vaccine. There are so many science deniers, and heightened mistrust of ”Operation Warp Speed,” that we won’t reach the critical mass for herd immunity. I have more hope in the virus mutating to become less virulent.
Well, if there's a vaccine, I don't care if some science denier gets sick as long as I can take it and go on with my life. But anyway, I agree with the previous OR that there is no reason to go to this place and in fact it's mentally not healthy for a lot of us to think like this. Prospects look really good for a vaccine.
@anonymous The problem is that a vaccine effectiveness increases with the more people who get the vaccine, and vice versa. If fewer people around you get the vaccine, there are more potential vectors in your environment. Listen to the doctors, particularly Dr. Fauci. I think all of the elevation of vaccine talk lately is purely political - the right wants to have a shining beacon of hope to wave in front of us before the election. It's really sad that medicine is caught up in all of this politicking.
we have to unless we want to see even further economic collapse and massive mental health issues
I mean... given the (now) extreme unlikelihood that none of the multiple thus far promising vaccines are successful, it would just burn itself out largely in 2 years. But why go to this place emotionally? Science and scientists have a great deal of confidence that there will be one. What if some more likely scenarios like what if trump gets re elected and we pass the point of no return where global warming is concerned.
Exactly this.
People are already shrugging their shoulders and taking risks (where are you that there are no restaurants, for example?). People's calculus of risk changes as time goes on.
But there's no need to make decisions now about what you'll do if there's "never" a vaccine. There might not be one, but the chances are good that there will, so it's best to focus on deciding what risks we're comfortable with as a society for the next 6-12 months.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in a vaccine. There are so many science deniers, and heightened mistrust of ”Operation Warp Speed,” that we won’t reach the critical mass for herd immunity. I have more hope in the virus mutating to become less virulent.
Well, if there's a vaccine, I don't care if some science denier gets sick as long as I can take it and go on with my life. But anyway, I agree with the previous OR that there is no reason to go to this place and in fact it's mentally not healthy for a lot of us to think like this. Prospects look really good for a vaccine.
@anonymous The problem is that a vaccine effectiveness increases with the more people who get the vaccine, and vice versa. If fewer people around you get the vaccine, there are more potential vectors in your environment. Listen to the doctors, particularly Dr. Fauci. I think all of the elevation of vaccine talk lately is purely political - the right wants to have a shining beacon of hope to wave in front of us before the election. It's really sad that medicine is caught up in all of this politicking.