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Oct 10, 2020

Watched the Watts family murder doc on Netflix

OBVIOUSLY it’s not Shanann’s fault what happened but as I was watching I noticed some oddly controlling behaviors on her end and a tendency to dramatize situations. The documentary didn‘t suggest this but based on certain texts and scenarios, I picked up on it. It reminded me of myself in some of my younger relationships (not in a good way) and how crazy I could get. I figured Shannann must be a Capricorn like myself so I just looked up her birthday and it’s the exact same day as mine.

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anonymous

Oct 11, 2020

He reminds me so, so, so much of my psychopathic ex. On the outside, people would believe I was too controlling because they didn't see that behind close doors he was doing absolutely nothing, and I mean NOTHING, to build our life or function as a healthy couple. To me, he was like a robot i, only powering on when he was forced to. When he powered on, he was sooooo charming. I was the one prioritizing buying a home, making sure finances were in order, planning trips, etc. Then when people would see me asking/telling him to please do or not do something, they'd say, "Oh, we see who's the boss here!" It's scary because I used to wonder, "Whoa, is it me?"

They had no idea that I was breathing for two. I was so stressed, I thought I was crazy, and people thought I was the tough, pushy one, the bitch. It later turned out he was living a completely separate existence with someone else, ultimately doing something extremely toxic and awful. My friends have actually apologized to me, saying that they didn't realize what was going on, and they see they were fooled. They felt bad, but I understood how he fooled them. Lesson learned for me. I had such low self esteem,

A psychopath's greatest success is getting everyone to believe he was innocent or the "other person was wrong, too!" The very fact that he killed his beautiful little girls even as they said "Daddy, no!" tells you that it was ALL him. He planned it for a long time. He didn't snap. He is a psychopath.

anonymous

Oct 11, 2020

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@anonymous I totally believe you, but I also wonder—why? Why do women married to these men agree to prop up everything until they break? And why do they so often decide to have another child when the marriage is very obviously failing?

I get that people don’t always act rationally, believe me. And any man who dispassionately murders his children is obviously a psychopath. But I’d like to know more about their financial situation—a family who lives in a massive house they can’t afford, wife is in MLM, they declare bankruptcy and are in arrears on HOA fees, and they go ahead and have another kid! He is a psychopath. But she had to be very damaged as well. There was more wrong with that picture

anonymous

Oct 11, 2020

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@anonymousBecause the pressure is on to put forward this image that everything is ok. Marriage is supposed to be a happily ever after. There is so, so much pressure on women to create the happy home, or at least the appearance of one. Everyone brings their baggage and luggage to a relationship.

Look at all of those influencers who create all of those "our family is better than YOURS!" posts on Instagram and Facebook. Effortless, neverending joy and a husband who's JUST THE BEST. Until the inevitable square appears with "I've been holding this in for so long, but, I have some difficult news to share"....If you're not living the social media-approved dream, then you're a failure.

And what about all the women who say, "You know what? This DOES suck! I deserve better than this. I'm out!" And then they're killed. That story happens every minute of every day.

I just get so mad when victims are assigned some of the blame in their own abuse, whether it's rape, bullying, or murder. . EVERYONE has freaking issues. That doesn't give you the right to destroy someone else's life because "you're so sad/angry/confused/conflicted". And it doesn't give you the right to say your issues trump theirs. Man up or woman up and shut up.

Anonymous

Oct 11, 2020

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It was clear that she was unhappy and picking up on his lack of interest. Lots of us wax and wane within a relationship without resorting to infidelity or murder.

Anonymous

Oct 10, 2020

A friend of mine sadly lost her two DCs at the hands of their father. It was completely premeditated and he had been working on it for weeks

Anonymous

Oct 10, 2020

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@a nonymous yes indeed. This is a beautiful letter that captures the depth of the pain, which is ongoing and so raw

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/14578484/2019/10/impact.pdf?_gl=1*4eub59*_ga*N3JORmtFbTVnbURSdk5qQUpDRzJvRG9iV0xLMFY2aHV2MEg3Tk5QaXpKbUZBbVdnUlJyRE5iUm5Va1oydzNPLQ

Anonymous

Oct 10, 2020

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@anonymous thank you. Yes it is awful, he was unstable but nobody would have imagined he‘d do anything like this. He bought his only gun for this sole purpose

Anon

Oct 11, 2020

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@Anonymous omg

Anonymous

Oct 10, 2020

Putting your astroillogical sign into the equation negates your point, but I see what you mean.

anonymous

Oct 10, 2020

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OP- eh, I'm not really into astrology but it's kind of a bar trick that I have; I can guess almost anybody's sign after a single conversation. In grad school, I once guessed 13 strangers in a row correctly. So I do think the personality traits/general vibe that somebody puts out are decipherable. I was surprised to recognize some of my own negative qualities in Shannann and though I guessed she would be Capricorn (second guess-virgo) I was shocked it was the exact same birthday. I can see where she and I could be dangerously manipulative in subtle ways that really put partners over the edge. When combined with the latent evil the husband had in him, it was disastrous. Obviously, his character flaws are to blame for the tragedy that took place. How he could do that to his own children is unfathomable.