What is so irritating about this talk of "getting a second passport" or leaving the country if the Republicans with the White House and the Senate again - is that these people who fancy themselves mini-Masters of the Universe or perhaps Georgina Sorroses are just so overprivileged and entitled. They make a mockery of legitimate political refugees from countries such as Syria and Yemen, and they are ready to pledge their fealty to truly dubious leaders such as Viktor Orban without blinking an eye. Because yes, that is what you must do, to receive a passport from your ancestor's country of origin, no matter how much you pay.
Anonymous
Sep 27, 2020
Think of the plight of the thousands of EU citizens now facing job loss and reduced opportunity in the face of Brexit which will force many of them to leave the UK and result in the reshaping and diminishment of so many EU economies. Consider that the refugees coming from the Middle East and Africa plowed right through Eastern Europe, including the relatively robust economy of Poland, through Greece, Italy, and France, and headed straight for the UK. They did this because there is nothing for immigrants in those countries, and many of them are also unwanted. Yes, surely U.S. emigres will be treated differently, but not for any reason other than their checkbooks. This is the modern iteration of the Ugly American cliche.
I just think it’s really strange. Governments change and whichever chosen country in EU they live in, they will just leave again if a party they dislike gets voted into power? Arguably, Boris Johnson is no Better than Trump, Viktor Orbán was already mentioned, the government in Luxembourg is just always terrible. Italy has its own problems and the Swiss don’t like foreigners anyway (plus immigrants become “Swiss” after 7 generations). If you live in a blue state, you’re better off staying here.
@Anonymous I just really think that Americans are naive, don’t understand other cultures and think that just because everyone in Europe sucks up to wealthy tourists (which is their job if they work in tourism!!!), they’ll be welcomed with open arms. Americans take note: there’s a professional friendliness (make tourists feel at home and among friends) in the tourism industry that doesn’t translate into real life. I am also a tourist in my own home country whenever I go to places outside my hometown and the “kindness” always amazes me until I remember that I pay them to be so nice to me.
True about Switzerland.DH’s mother’s family are all Swiss and his own grandfather didn’t consider dh Swiss at all. He wasn’t going to give dh any property in Switzerland because he wasn’t a true “Swiss.”
What is so irritating about this talk of "getting a second passport" or leaving the country if the Republicans with the White House and the Senate again - is that these people who fancy themselves mini-Masters of the Universe or perhaps Georgina Sorroses are just so overprivileged and entitled. They make a mockery of legitimate political refugees from countries such as Syria and Yemen, and they are ready to pledge their fealty to truly dubious leaders such as Viktor Orban without blinking an eye. Because yes, that is what you must do, to receive a passport from your ancestor's country of origin, no matter how much you pay.
Think of the plight of the thousands of EU citizens now facing job loss and reduced opportunity in the face of Brexit which will force many of them to leave the UK and result in the reshaping and diminishment of so many EU economies. Consider that the refugees coming from the Middle East and Africa plowed right through Eastern Europe, including the relatively robust economy of Poland, through Greece, Italy, and France, and headed straight for the UK. They did this because there is nothing for immigrants in those countries, and many of them are also unwanted. Yes, surely U.S. emigres will be treated differently, but not for any reason other than their checkbooks. This is the modern iteration of the Ugly American cliche.
When Bush was elected, everyone also talked about moving to Canada. It’s hard to take it seriously.
I remember that. I thought it was ridiculous at the time. The current situation seems very different.
I just think it’s really strange. Governments change and whichever chosen country in EU they live in, they will just leave again if a party they dislike gets voted into power? Arguably, Boris Johnson is no Better than Trump, Viktor Orbán was already mentioned, the government in Luxembourg is just always terrible. Italy has its own problems and the Swiss don’t like foreigners anyway (plus immigrants become “Swiss” after 7 generations). If you live in a blue state, you’re better off staying here.
It's the typical American superiority complex
@Anonymous I just really think that Americans are naive, don’t understand other cultures and think that just because everyone in Europe sucks up to wealthy tourists (which is their job if they work in tourism!!!), they’ll be welcomed with open arms. Americans take note: there’s a professional friendliness (make tourists feel at home and among friends) in the tourism industry that doesn’t translate into real life. I am also a tourist in my own home country whenever I go to places outside my hometown and the “kindness” always amazes me until I remember that I pay them to be so nice to me.
True about Switzerland.DH’s mother’s family are all Swiss and his own grandfather didn’t consider dh Swiss at all. He wasn’t going to give dh any property in Switzerland because he wasn’t a true “Swiss.”