@Anonymous Fire the teachers because Carranza's DOE didn't get their shit together to order PPE and cleaning supplies, hire nurses, and repair ventilation and plumbing, when they've had six months to do so? So then the schools will have no PPE, no cleaning supplies, no nurses, no working ventilation/plumbing, AND no teachers? Sounds like a great plan.
What a mess! I absolutely cannot blame them if all they want are safe working conditions. On the other hand I think it’s incredibly selfish and thoughtless if they ask for ridiculous things such as everyone has to get tested prior to school start, which is unattainable in such a short time. The DOE and BDB are completely incompetent and I cannot wait til BDB leaves!
Absolutely this! I am all for reopening, but if proper cleaning procedures are not established and supplies are not in place, do we really want our kids in school? I think teachers are in a really hard spot, DOE and BDB saying we should opening, but not preparing do so safely.
@Anon I don't think the "deep cleaning" does all that much. We know that surfaces aren't responsible for most of the spread, and with everyone in masks and not leaving their classroom, I don't think coughing/sneezing on handrails etc is really going to be the issue.
What a mess! I absolutely cannot blame them if all they want are safe working conditions. On the other hand I think it’s incredibly selfish and thoughtless if they ask for ridiculous things such as everyone has to get tested prior to school start, which is unattainable in such a short time. The DOE and BDB are completely incompetent and I cannot wait til BDB leaves!
I think the testing is just a negotiation tactic. If it's really true they are being asked to go back without PPE and cleaning, I support their strike. I am more on their side than on the side of the teachers at my private who won't go back despite having the PPE and the cleaning and the ventilation and everything else money can buy.
There are serious consequences in NY for striking under the Taylor law so not sure if it will actually happen or if the threat is just being used as a negotiating tactic.
@Anonymous The union officials risk jail time in addition to steep fines. Unions can also lose automatic dues deduction for a certain period of time. Teachers striking lose 2 days of pay for every day out of work. I don't think anyone actually wants to strike--it is not advantageous to anyone bc then during the strike there is no school, not even remote learning. What the union wants is to use the threat of a strike to get remote learning.
Yes. Though it’s not exactly like ”we” are planning it. It’s a directive from Mulgrew.
I heard 9/09. Is that true?
@Anonymous Fire the teachers because Carranza's DOE didn't get their shit together to order PPE and cleaning supplies, hire nurses, and repair ventilation and plumbing, when they've had six months to do so? So then the schools will have no PPE, no cleaning supplies, no nurses, no working ventilation/plumbing, AND no teachers? Sounds like a great plan.
What a mess! I absolutely cannot blame them if all they want are safe working conditions. On the other hand I think it’s incredibly selfish and thoughtless if they ask for ridiculous things such as everyone has to get tested prior to school start, which is unattainable in such a short time. The DOE and BDB are completely incompetent and I cannot wait til BDB leaves!
Absolutely this! I am all for reopening, but if proper cleaning procedures are not established and supplies are not in place, do we really want our kids in school? I think teachers are in a really hard spot, DOE and BDB saying we should opening, but not preparing do so safely.
@Anon Got this link from our school today. It's the DOE "pledge." LOL!
@Anon I don't think the "deep cleaning" does all that much. We know that surfaces aren't responsible for most of the spread, and with everyone in masks and not leaving their classroom, I don't think coughing/sneezing on handrails etc is really going to be the issue.
What a mess! I absolutely cannot blame them if all they want are safe working conditions. On the other hand I think it’s incredibly selfish and thoughtless if they ask for ridiculous things such as everyone has to get tested prior to school start, which is unattainable in such a short time. The DOE and BDB are completely incompetent and I cannot wait til BDB leaves!
I think the testing is just a negotiation tactic. If it's really true they are being asked to go back without PPE and cleaning, I support their strike. I am more on their side than on the side of the teachers at my private who won't go back despite having the PPE and the cleaning and the ventilation and everything else money can buy.
agree
There are serious consequences in NY for striking under the Taylor law so not sure if it will actually happen or if the threat is just being used as a negotiating tactic.
like what? Jail?
@Anonymous The union officials risk jail time in addition to steep fines. Unions can also lose automatic dues deduction for a certain period of time. Teachers striking lose 2 days of pay for every day out of work. I don't think anyone actually wants to strike--it is not advantageous to anyone bc then during the strike there is no school, not even remote learning. What the union wants is to use the threat of a strike to get remote learning.
any limitation on striking if they are deemed essential? Honest question