I do. I know you're probably a troll and looking to fight, and I'm not going to argue with you. I think UPK and 3K are huge, and if he manages to open schools, he'll be my fucking hero. Also, I liked Bloomberg and think he was truly well-intentioned, but he actually made this city impossible to live in for millions of people, and I don't ever want a repeat of a "pro-business," pro-billionaire mayor.
np. I agree that UPK/3K and the universal free breakfast/lunch were major. He totally f-ed up though with schools in the time of covid (both in March and again now) and it cost lives. He seems to lack the ability to think independently, be flexible, and tries to be a people pleaser (politically motivated) and it bites him in the ass when public opinion shifts. Would not vote for him again.
I am OP and am serious, genuinely curious as to who supports him and why. I like UPK too, I was favorable for him in the beginning but then turned sour when I felt like he was out of his league in day to day management.
@anonymous That's just false. NYC closed schools the SAME DAY as SF. He just announced it 3 days later, with some pressure from Cuomo. No one was closing schools earlier, except acouple of NYC privates who closed from the 11th (a wednesday). NYC publics closed the following Monday (the 16th). It's just not true that soo many people died because of his decision
And the situation in public housing is simply horrifying...I have often thought that perhaps he's a closet capitalist trying to force people out of the "system" by making conditions in NYCHA housing so unbearable that its residents are forced to leave.
His nepotism in appointing his wife as head of two major, billion-dollar NYC commissions, one a miserable failure on helping the mentally ill https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/chirlane-mccrays-thrivenyc-clueless-in-community-outreach/ and the other an impending risible disaster on "figuring out why minorities are disproportionately dying from COVID", outdoes any of his predecessors and makes the Trump administration where at least Jared and Ivanka don't have a BUDGET look like a meritocracy!
Then there's the Board of Education which is gradually ripping apart the Gifted and Talented track in public schools, and trying the dismantle the Specialized High School admissions system...the list of DeBlasio's ill-considered and ill-begotten choices goes on, his ludicrous run for president of the United States showcased how shockingly lacking in self-awareness he is...on the order of KJU.
And the people who use UPK are sadly the people who are in the system anyway as the rest of us managed to muddle through without a social safety net before another social welfare program. Bring on the "you had me until you trashed UPK" but guess what - yeah I'm paying for it anyway...go back to shoo-ing away the homeless from your West Side doorsteps! NIMBY all the way!
OP: Yes thanks for reminding me about the NYCHA and ACS issues. He is just not good at management and that is reflected in the deteriorating quality of life for all. But I do think UPK is wonderful, and never benefiting from it personally. But we all benefit from early childhood education and access. I wonder what's next... is there another Bloomberg in the wings or will it be a worse turn?
"I'm just a normal NYCer who comes prepared with a scorecard, with links, of things I hate about the mayor. And--at the top of my list is concern for NYCHA residents!" Yeah, you're credible. Suspiciously similar to the anti-deblasio video played at the RNC, too!
Even Rudy Giuiliani, who is a terrible human being and was generally an awful mayor, managed to rise to the occasion in a crisis. deBlasio just doesn't have it in him.
i absolutely hate Giuliani but there was a time under his mayoral term in which NYC was absolutely thriving (Clinton also had something to do with it). Then he grew more and more authoritarian. But for a moment there NYC was at its peak
Anonymous
Sep 01, 2020
@Anonymous Slow down, horsey, CLINTON had something to do with NYC thriving? From what planet exactly were you watching NYC - Neptune? What exactly did either Cilnton - except maybe naming their daughter Chelsea - ever have to do with making NYC thrive? Maybe GWB did after 9/11, I'll give you Al D'Amato during the Bill Clinton years, but a CLINTON responsible for New York being great? NEVER.
BDB killed a groundhog and then covered it up. This tells you all you need to know.
Anonymous
Sep 01, 2020
DeBlasio lost me once the pandemic started - he and his health guru Oxiris Barbot were sending the people who sadly listened to them out to Chinatown for New Year's celebrations as late as March and we all know how THAT turned out...
I think this goes to the core of his issue. He's first and foremost concern is racial and economic equity. While an important goal, he let's it overshadow other goals, ultimately undermining his initial goal of helping.
@Anonymous Agreed. I truly respect his concern and desire to help low-income NY-ers (a refreshing change from B-berg, who didn't GAF about poor people). But he's not a good manager or leader, which has been painfully evident these past six months.
I hate him, and so much of NYC has become unlivable and honestly unwalkable since he came to office (looking at you, stretch of midtown west from 42nd to upper 20s, littered with drug addicts, so so sad). That said, I give him A LOT OF CREDIT for standing up to everyone to get the schools open!!!!
I liked DeBlasio pretty well pre-COVID. UPK and 3K and free food are huge. Also universal healthcare thru Health and Hospitals. Also just prioritizing for underserved New Yorkers. He f-ed up COVID pretty bad but if he manages to re-open schools and keep them open that will be huge. So I would say a mixed bag for me. Definitely DO NOT prefer Bloomberg or Giuliani!! And many mayors have done much worse with COVID.
Anonymous
Oct 23, 2020
DeBlasio has done some good things for New Yorkers and I trust that he will fight unabashedly against Trumpism policies, like ICE, ending DACA, Pro-Life,ending Obamacare.He will fight to protect NYC from the GOP agenda.
Also, one of the biggest complaints against him was that he didn't close schools in time. Despite the fact that NYC closed schools the same damn day as SF, I think the evidence will turn out to prove him right that closing schools was overall a huge mistake.
I think his lack of care for quality of life issues will result in a republican mayor or move to the right. I generally agree with De B on policy but he doesn't know how to manage (see NYCHA, DOE, MTA..). As much as I love nyc because of its grit and energy and diversity, it needs to be run with a strategic plan and forward vision if it's to continue to thrive. Right now we have no performing arts, retail is dying, restaurants stuggling, night life gone and many NYC industries (finance, comms) have people working from home. What are his plans to innovate and turn it around? He's just not that guy. And we have a looming fiscal crisis that is going to require sacrifices not just more taxes.
@Anonymous That's funny . . . because a lot of the contribution to those issues are astronomical rents. When NYC is more affordable (not bankrupt, but affordable), those other things can thrive. Affordability brings artists, diversity, night life (oh, nightlife used to be so good before it became all boring bottle service), ethnic food (not just over hyped VC backed restaurants). Perhaps, NYC needs to swing back towards the middle.
I do. I know you're probably a troll and looking to fight, and I'm not going to argue with you. I think UPK and 3K are huge, and if he manages to open schools, he'll be my fucking hero. Also, I liked Bloomberg and think he was truly well-intentioned, but he actually made this city impossible to live in for millions of people, and I don't ever want a repeat of a "pro-business," pro-billionaire mayor.
np. I agree that UPK/3K and the universal free breakfast/lunch were major. He totally f-ed up though with schools in the time of covid (both in March and again now) and it cost lives. He seems to lack the ability to think independently, be flexible, and tries to be a people pleaser (politically motivated) and it bites him in the ass when public opinion shifts. Would not vote for him again.
I am OP and am serious, genuinely curious as to who supports him and why. I like UPK too, I was favorable for him in the beginning but then turned sour when I felt like he was out of his league in day to day management.
@anonymous That's just false. NYC closed schools the SAME DAY as SF. He just announced it 3 days later, with some pressure from Cuomo. No one was closing schools earlier, except acouple of NYC privates who closed from the 11th (a wednesday). NYC publics closed the following Monday (the 16th). It's just not true that soo many people died because of his decision
I’m sure a lot of people like him. I think he’s an inept bozo.
i'm not so sure. i wonder what his approval rate is. Seems people hate him almost as much as trump.
He and Laurie Lightfoot are the worst mayors in the history of the world.
Sadly the people who like him the most were the ones hurt hardest by his policies...the poor the underserved...
Here I think we are definitely on different pages...the number of children who have died on DeBlasio's watch due to the complete inadequacy of the Administration for Children's Services has outpaced any prior mayor...https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/de-blasio-no-acs-regrets-damning-doi-reports-article-1.2978774 ; https://nypost.com/2019/11/23/city-blocked-investigations-of-de-blasio-richard-carranza-whistleblowers/
And the situation in public housing is simply horrifying...I have often thought that perhaps he's a closet capitalist trying to force people out of the "system" by making conditions in NYCHA housing so unbearable that its residents are forced to leave.
His nepotism in appointing his wife as head of two major, billion-dollar NYC commissions, one a miserable failure on helping the mentally ill https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/chirlane-mccrays-thrivenyc-clueless-in-community-outreach/ and the other an impending risible disaster on "figuring out why minorities are disproportionately dying from COVID", outdoes any of his predecessors and makes the Trump administration where at least Jared and Ivanka don't have a BUDGET look like a meritocracy!
Then there's the Board of Education which is gradually ripping apart the Gifted and Talented track in public schools, and trying the dismantle the Specialized High School admissions system...the list of DeBlasio's ill-considered and ill-begotten choices goes on, his ludicrous run for president of the United States showcased how shockingly lacking in self-awareness he is...on the order of KJU.
And the people who use UPK are sadly the people who are in the system anyway as the rest of us managed to muddle through without a social safety net before another social welfare program. Bring on the "you had me until you trashed UPK" but guess what - yeah I'm paying for it anyway...go back to shoo-ing away the homeless from your West Side doorsteps! NIMBY all the way!
OP: Yes thanks for reminding me about the NYCHA and ACS issues. He is just not good at management and that is reflected in the deteriorating quality of life for all. But I do think UPK is wonderful, and never benefiting from it personally. But we all benefit from early childhood education and access. I wonder what's next... is there another Bloomberg in the wings or will it be a worse turn?
@Anonymous Yeah, you guys aren't plants AT ALL. Lol
"I'm just a normal NYCer who comes prepared with a scorecard, with links, of things I hate about the mayor. And--at the top of my list is concern for NYCHA residents!" Yeah, you're credible. Suspiciously similar to the anti-deblasio video played at the RNC, too!
Even Rudy Giuiliani, who is a terrible human being and was generally an awful mayor, managed to rise to the occasion in a crisis. deBlasio just doesn't have it in him.
i absolutely hate Giuliani but there was a time under his mayoral term in which NYC was absolutely thriving (Clinton also had something to do with it). Then he grew more and more authoritarian. But for a moment there NYC was at its peak
@Anonymous Slow down, horsey, CLINTON had something to do with NYC thriving? From what planet exactly were you watching NYC - Neptune? What exactly did either Cilnton - except maybe naming their daughter Chelsea - ever have to do with making NYC thrive? Maybe GWB did after 9/11, I'll give you Al D'Amato during the Bill Clinton years, but a CLINTON responsible for New York being great? NEVER.
@Anonymous national economic growth, NYC is center of economic growth. Horsey??
BDB killed a groundhog and then covered it up. This tells you all you need to know.
DeBlasio lost me once the pandemic started - he and his health guru Oxiris Barbot were sending the people who sadly listened to them out to Chinatown for New Year's celebrations as late as March and we all know how THAT turned out...
I think this goes to the core of his issue. He's first and foremost concern is racial and economic equity. While an important goal, he let's it overshadow other goals, ultimately undermining his initial goal of helping.
@Anonymous Agreed. I truly respect his concern and desire to help low-income NY-ers (a refreshing change from B-berg, who didn't GAF about poor people). But he's not a good manager or leader, which has been painfully evident these past six months.
no
Disagree about Bloomberg not liking poor people. What’s your basis for saying that?
I hate him, and so much of NYC has become unlivable and honestly unwalkable since he came to office (looking at you, stretch of midtown west from 42nd to upper 20s, littered with drug addicts, so so sad). That said, I give him A LOT OF CREDIT for standing up to everyone to get the schools open!!!!
I liked DeBlasio pretty well pre-COVID. UPK and 3K and free food are huge. Also universal healthcare thru Health and Hospitals. Also just prioritizing for underserved New Yorkers. He f-ed up COVID pretty bad but if he manages to re-open schools and keep them open that will be huge. So I would say a mixed bag for me. Definitely DO NOT prefer Bloomberg or Giuliani!! And many mayors have done much worse with COVID.
DeBlasio has done some good things for New Yorkers and I trust that he will fight unabashedly against Trumpism policies, like ICE, ending DACA, Pro-Life,ending Obamacare.He will fight to protect NYC from the GOP agenda.
This.
Also, one of the biggest complaints against him was that he didn't close schools in time. Despite the fact that NYC closed schools the same damn day as SF, I think the evidence will turn out to prove him right that closing schools was overall a huge mistake.
I think his lack of care for quality of life issues will result in a republican mayor or move to the right. I generally agree with De B on policy but he doesn't know how to manage (see NYCHA, DOE, MTA..). As much as I love nyc because of its grit and energy and diversity, it needs to be run with a strategic plan and forward vision if it's to continue to thrive. Right now we have no performing arts, retail is dying, restaurants stuggling, night life gone and many NYC industries (finance, comms) have people working from home. What are his plans to innovate and turn it around? He's just not that guy. And we have a looming fiscal crisis that is going to require sacrifices not just more taxes.
@Anonymous That's funny . . . because a lot of the contribution to those issues are astronomical rents. When NYC is more affordable (not bankrupt, but affordable), those other things can thrive. Affordability brings artists, diversity, night life (oh, nightlife used to be so good before it became all boring bottle service), ethnic food (not just over hyped VC backed restaurants). Perhaps, NYC needs to swing back towards the middle.
I don't.