There will absolutely be lay offs in our industry (Financial Services). 100%. We have seen this movie so many times, we practically know it by heart. Not afraid. It’s just a fact of life. And if it happens so be it. We’ll get other jobs. The most important things can’t be bought anyway. And if it doesn’t happen, then we will continue to stay grateful, to know that it easily could have been us, and to count blessings.
I am. Work for a large nonprofit for 20+ years and had my first semi-bad review last week. Got the feeling I'm being edged out. DH seems pretty secure (insurance).
Absolutely. DH works for an agency that handles city contracts. They've been frantically busy dealing with Covid-related stuff, but I foresee it all coming to a stop once the budget gets brutally cut.
And I work in marketing, which always gets headcount cut (since we're seen as cost centers, we don't bring in actual revenue).
Btdt - attorney. furloughed months ago. Had an affair with boss years ago and he’s been trying to get me out ever since. This was his escape valve...terrible shit.
@Anonymous he went on to seduce other employees - I recommended you get some therapy. I don't mean that in a cruel way, I just felt you were crying out for help and the path you were pursuing was harmful to you. You were very angry with him.
Legacy print media jobs, so it doesn’t take a pandemic to set off layoffs. I’m trying to scoot over toward tech (while home schooling?!). By the time DH is a layoff victim / SAHDad the kids should be old enough to appreciate his “i’ll-be-here napping-if-you-need-anything” parenting style.
@SilenceDogood What kind of tech? I've recently moved from legacy print to "digital marketing" but I hate it and it doesn't feel like a much more secure track, career-wise. Youth and beauty are valued in the marketing world just as much as journalism.
I've been trying to think about what kind of career pivot a 50 year old mom could possibly make, and coming up empty.
@anonymous I don't want to sound like Ivanka—"find something new!" "let them eat cake!"—but I'd bet money that you can do this. Is there a way to do it that you would actually -like-? To be determined. Here's what they will say when you call your college career office or pick up a career-changing book (and they're not wrong!): take stock of 1. what you're already good at and have contacts in, 2. what you would like, or at least not hate, and 3. what people are paying for right now and projected to need. Then think long range about what you want to try, and also think opportunistically about anything you can do easily and fast. Realistically, most jobs related to tha internets do not require a degree. These are basically crafts you learn by doing and show in a portfolio. As an in-between step, there are a lot of little remote programs, "boot camps" out there, 3-6 months long. They do not spit you out like a finished product, but they do watch over your work and validate it and connect you to people, and then at the end they give you a little certificate and (to varying degrees) help you look for work. They mark you socially as a "student" so it's more normal to reach out to people or take a brief internship or whatever you need. I would flop at some stuff, like programming and data visualization, and I think some fields and subfields are more discriminatory, but snuffle around and see! There are quieter jobs, like tweaking a huge commercial site, and higher-stakes or higher-visibility ones, like making somebody's new app. For starting smaller, any of us could probably spend less than a month trying out stuff from youtube or lynda demonstrations (lynda's free via NYPL) and get enough practice to build a wordpress site. A lot of people and businesses need those. You have friends who need them. That's the gateway for many pimply teenagers in basements, and it can be a gateway for us too. I don't think there's a direct message function on this site? but if so, I'm around. Or you could write to the person who set it up to be connected to any of us—or just to connect to her about this same question. Or if you start a thread for boosting/changing careers, we can keep it going.
I posted before that I work for the City, so the threat is there. Realistically, I think it's more likely that I get a pay cut or reduced benefits.
DH may lose job, but the immediate concern is lost bonus, which is half salary. (But we don't rely on it).
There will absolutely be lay offs in our industry (Financial Services). 100%. We have seen this movie so many times, we practically know it by heart. Not afraid. It’s just a fact of life. And if it happens so be it. We’ll get other jobs. The most important things can’t be bought anyway. And if it doesn’t happen, then we will continue to stay grateful, to know that it easily could have been us, and to count blessings.
Of course. DH was furloughed for 2 months and I was reduced to 80%. But shockingly we're both back now. But yeah, it can change at any moment
We work in industries that rely on construction.
Already happened. Good times.
Same here. DH has been out of work since March 16 and it’s been rough.
I am. Work for a large nonprofit for 20+ years and had my first semi-bad review last week. Got the feeling I'm being edged out. DH seems pretty secure (insurance).
I was in finance and resigned last year. If I were still employed I would be very concerned
Absolutely. DH works for an agency that handles city contracts. They've been frantically busy dealing with Covid-related stuff, but I foresee it all coming to a stop once the budget gets brutally cut.
And I work in marketing, which always gets headcount cut (since we're seen as cost centers, we don't bring in actual revenue).
Btdt - attorney. furloughed months ago. Had an affair with boss years ago and he’s been trying to get me out ever since. This was his escape valve...terrible shit.
@Anonymous I remember you
@Anonymous you do? What do you remember? You must have been around for a loong time!!!
@Anonymous he went on to seduce other employees - I recommended you get some therapy. I don't mean that in a cruel way, I just felt you were crying out for help and the path you were pursuing was harmful to you. You were very angry with him.
Dh self employed and has brought in zero since February. I took a 20% paycut and am waiting for layoffs. Fashion/sales/retail. It's brutal out there.
sounds like it.
Legacy print media jobs, so it doesn’t take a pandemic to set off layoffs. I’m trying to scoot over toward tech (while home schooling?!). By the time DH is a layoff victim / SAHDad the kids should be old enough to appreciate his “i’ll-be-here napping-if-you-need-anything” parenting style.
@SilenceDogood What kind of tech? I've recently moved from legacy print to "digital marketing" but I hate it and it doesn't feel like a much more secure track, career-wise. Youth and beauty are valued in the marketing world just as much as journalism.
I've been trying to think about what kind of career pivot a 50 year old mom could possibly make, and coming up empty.
@anonymous I don't want to sound like Ivanka—"find something new!" "let them eat cake!"—but I'd bet money that you can do this. Is there a way to do it that you would actually -like-? To be determined. Here's what they will say when you call your college career office or pick up a career-changing book (and they're not wrong!): take stock of 1. what you're already good at and have contacts in, 2. what you would like, or at least not hate, and 3. what people are paying for right now and projected to need. Then think long range about what you want to try, and also think opportunistically about anything you can do easily and fast. Realistically, most jobs related to tha internets do not require a degree. These are basically crafts you learn by doing and show in a portfolio. As an in-between step, there are a lot of little remote programs, "boot camps" out there, 3-6 months long. They do not spit you out like a finished product, but they do watch over your work and validate it and connect you to people, and then at the end they give you a little certificate and (to varying degrees) help you look for work. They mark you socially as a "student" so it's more normal to reach out to people or take a brief internship or whatever you need. I would flop at some stuff, like programming and data visualization, and I think some fields and subfields are more discriminatory, but snuffle around and see! There are quieter jobs, like tweaking a huge commercial site, and higher-stakes or higher-visibility ones, like making somebody's new app. For starting smaller, any of us could probably spend less than a month trying out stuff from youtube or lynda demonstrations (lynda's free via NYPL) and get enough practice to build a wordpress site. A lot of people and businesses need those. You have friends who need them. That's the gateway for many pimply teenagers in basements, and it can be a gateway for us too. I don't think there's a direct message function on this site? but if so, I'm around. Or you could write to the person who set it up to be connected to any of us—or just to connect to her about this same question. Or if you start a thread for boosting/changing careers, we can keep it going.
Whew, sorry y'all, that was long and earnest. But that happened sometimes on the old UB, too, no?